At the No Ordinary People Podcast, our goal is to foster empathy by increasing proximity.

Join us each week for an interview with someone who may look/behave/believe differently than you to hear their story honored and learn what they really wish you understood about them.

the complexities of being pro-life

Today, our governor signed a bill banning abortion after 6 weeks, modeled after the law in Texas. I gasped as the headline popped up on my phone, and my 12-year-old asked what was up. I explained the bill to him, and he asked if we should be glad about that, since we value all life.…

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